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As I agreed I will share the stuff I post on Facebook. I need to caution you, the stuff I post on Facebook will be boring, juvenile, old, repetitive, etc. I watch the statistics to learn what material the readers like and I post stuff I know will draw the most views. Just now they seem to like Heinlein's sayings. This is my last post.

Look, friends, the only possible way to enjoy life is not to be afraid to die. A zest for living requires a willingness to die; you cannot have the first without the second. The '60s and '70s and '80s and '90s can be loaded with the zest for living, high excitement, and gutsy adventure for any truly human person. Truly human? I mean you descendants of cavemen who outlasted the saber-tooth, you who sprang from the loins of the Vikings, you whose ancestors fought the Crusades and were numbered the Golden Horde. Death is the lot of all of us and the only way the human race has ever conquered death is by treating it with contempt. By living every golden minute as if one had all eternity.

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Like it or not, it is what it is. I try to do the best I can with what I have to work with. My goal is to attract new people to Heinlein and to give them new things to learn. Facebook users are not at the level of the folks on the Forum. Probably never will be either. By increasing the audience maybe I'll snag some new readers from time to time. If you guys have ideas for posts on THS Facebook page please let me know. Or you can go do your own posts. Later.


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I by no means mean to discourage you.

I'll note only that no matter how revolutionary the new tool, platform or venue, and no matter how exhausting the effort put into cranking it, the pool of Heinlein aficionados never really seems to get any bigger. For all those who get briefly captured, it's the same ten dozen people, year in and year out, with about as many new stayers as old leavers.

FB is in some ways a bigger net, but catching fifty thousand people who make one comment about reading Stranger back in high school and then move on isn't really a gain over catching five thousand or five hundred or fifty using lesser tech.

But I only spent about 25 out of the last 30 years trying, so what do I know...


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But, people who did read Stranger in high school should have a place to talk about it with each other.


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This I posted on Jan. 24.

Last week I posted an accounting of the 2007 Heinlein Centennial Celebration In Kansas City. As a result Bill Patterson offered a new article about the Centennial from The Heinlein Journal. I hope you enjoy reading it and thanks to Bill for sharing.
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The Centennial celebration of Robert A Heinlein’s birth took place in Kansas City over the period from Thursday July 5 to Sunday July 8, 2007.

This is an article that will appear in the next Journal.


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Jim, you're correct. I get very few responses and/or discussions from my posts. The visitors that click LIKE on my posts are usually the same ones. Many others come and go. Some stay a short while. However, the number of people 'seeing the posts' and 'liking the page' keep going up. I'm going to keep after it, but I think after a short while the numbers are going to start going down as I run out of new material to give them. Cheers..


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Don't give up. But keep your expectations reasonable.

It should be the goal of THS to reach every single person with a sustained level of interest in Heinlein, and I don't think the efforts are exhausted yet. It can be frustrating to find those 1:100000's and then keep them engaged, but the goal is worthy.


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Clarification:

I meant the quality of discussion available outside this forum requires less expenditure of intellectual effort, and generally lacks the rational rigour found here.


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This is the saying I selected for the next week. I posted it on Facebook just now.

We’re simply trying to survive—and the first principle of survival is not to worry about the impossible and concentrate on what’s possible.

Heinlein, Robert A. (2011-04-19). Have Space Suit - Will Travel (Kindle Locations 962-963).


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Dominic, nice posting, and there's hardly anything lacking in your critical thinking processes as far as participation in these fora. If you have a thought, post it, see how it goes.


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This is a posting from Jan. 21. It is a link to a Heinlein timeline I built for a new reader that wished to read Heinlein in order. When first asked I put a shorter timeline on Facebook. It didn't work properly because Facebook doesn't have very good formatting tools (none). Even-so the reader response was great. So I built a better timeline and posted it on the THS website [link below].

Facebook post [Facebook URL: https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Hein ... 862?ref=hl]
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On January 7 I posted a Heinlein timeline on the Heinlein Facebook page for a reader who asked for assistance in determining the order of Robert’s books. The post drew a lot of looks, many more than I expected, so I decided to crea


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This is a Facebook page post from Jan. 21

The Old Heinlein Site

The current Heinlein Society webpage runs on WordPress. It hasn’t always been on WordPress. Only recently was this change made. I call this to your attention because lots of information that is part of the site from the 2003-2004 era hasn’t been transferred to the new WorldPress site yet. There are many pages of great info still available on the old site. New Heinlein readers will benefit from looking at this material. Go have a look. http://www.heinleinsociety.org/rah/index.htm. Note the links on the left side of the page. Use these links to move around the old site. I suggest you bookmark this page. Another page that includes a tremendous amount of info is the Concordance page. Look down the left side and click on Concordance. It’s an amazing who’s who and what’s what for many, many Heinlein books and stories. Happy reading.


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Dominic - great couple of posts. Please continue to contribute here. You may well make up for my late lethargy. :D

This Forum - may it live forever - stands as the premier repository of - what? Intelligent Heinlein discussion? Yes. Old, weary Heinlein-loving curmudgeons? Check. But the folks here are also very welcoming, and will never treat you with less than respect, as long as you return the favor. Post away.

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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: January 20.
Facebook page URL: https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Hein ... 862?ref=hl

It's another Heinlein quote.

Customs tell a man who he is, where he belongs, what he must do. Better illogical customs than none; men cannot live together without them. From an anthropologist’s view, ‘justice’ is a search for workable customs.

Heinlein, Robert A. (2011-09-20). Citizen of the Galaxy (Kindle Locations 1824-1826). . Kindle Edition.

These get the most interest so I post 1 per week.

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baaark-buk-buk-buk

Guess it's just us chickens :D


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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: January 18.
Heinlein Facebook page URL: https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Hein ... 862?ref=hl

Love this photo.. I wish Robert could see this. He would approve.
Great photo of NASA astronauts with Falcon 9, helping prepare cargo for Dragon's next trip to station.

Great photo. Photos like this are always a hit on the Facebook page. Over 200 views. Space-X and Elon Musk won a Heinlein award.


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He keeps the sword, Lady Vitamus (I'm sorry, I can't remember the spelling. I know one of you guys can spell it correctly) on his desk. I read an interview with him in a major magazine, Time or some such biggy. In the interview he explained to the interviewer the importance of the sword and how and why it was awarded to him. The interviewer picked it up and got finger prints on it. Elon promptly wiped off the finger prints and said it was one of his most prized possessions.

You should read the article. I'll try to find out mag for you. Be right back.


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I'm fairly sure it was Time magazine but I can't put my finger on it. Here's the info on Elon Musk from the Heinlein prize website.

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The second Heinlein Prize® was awarded to the CEO of SpaceX, Elon Musk, for Accomplishments in Commercial Space Activities on June 29, 2011 in a luncheon ceremony in Washington, D.C. An award of $250,000, a Lady Vivamus sword from Robert … Read MoreRead More

And there's the correct spelling of the sword.

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Thinker - the Lady Vivamus sword that is part of the Heinlein Prize is an authorized version produced by Albion Swords. You can see pictures and purchase one at this site:


Albion's Lady Vivamus is a beautiful sword and it certainly is true to the description in Glory Road, but it was designed before a letter from Heinlein concerning Lady Vivamus came to light. If you are interested in that, you can read about it and see my interpretation of Lady Vivamus here:

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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: February 7
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Beautiful pulp art....
Sixth Column, by Anson McDonald
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Serialized in 1941, published as a novel in 1949 as:

I linked to another page that posted the cover picture.


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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: February 7
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This is interesting. If you've not been to the Heinlein Prize Trust site for a while you should drop by and look at the new stuff. URL=


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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: February 9
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What is supposed to happen in a democracy is that each sovereign citizen will always vote in the public interest for the safety and welfare of all. But what does happen is that he votes his own self-interest as he sees it... which for the majority translates as 'Bread and Circuses'. Heinlein, Robert A. (Printed 1991). To Sail Beyond the Sunset. Page 234. An Orbit Book.

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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: February 9
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With great sadness and respect I report the passing of William I. Bacchus, Robert Heinlein's nephew.
William I. Bacchus, USAID official
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William I. Bacchus, a personnel specialist who retired in 2001 from the U.S. Agency for International Development after serving as executive director of two management councils, died Jan. 23 at...

William is mentioned in the Heinlein letters multiple times and RAH helped him along as he grew up. Bob and Ginny were friends with the Bacchus family.

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Thanks for posting these here. That last one especially should be preserved in the permanent record this forum provides.


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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: February 10
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Heinlein Society Announces 2nd Annual Scholarship Program | The Heinlein Society
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The Heinlein Society is pleased to announce our second annual scholarship essay contest for the 2013-2014 academic year. There are two $500 scholarships which will be awarded to undergraduate students of accredited 4-year colleges and universities majoring in engineering, math, or physical sciences (e.g. physics, chemistry), or in Science Fiction as Literature.

Deadline for submission of applications is May 15, 2013.

Cheers! Safe travels..


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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: February 1
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We’re simply trying to survive—and the first principle of survival is not to worry about the impossible and concentrate on what’s possible.

Heinlein, Robert A. (2011-04-19). Have Space Suit - Will Travel (Kindle Locations 962-963).

This Heinlein saying got 210 looks on Facebook.
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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: February 15
Heinlein Facebook page [url]URL=https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Heinlein-Society/140041782704862?ref=hl[/url]

Thank you Elisabeth. Please come by more often... Elisabeth is the Heinlein Twitter Administrator.
Because this quote just asked to be "quote picture"...

You just gotta go look at the picture and quote. The display is awesome. There are 255 views, 25 shares and 35 likes. Deb got the quote from the Heinlein archives and Elizabeth did the picture (I believe-but they're usually hard to pin down when I start asking questions)

You guys can come over and post too. Anything you want; pictures, sayings, links to videos, questions, etc. And I know this group has a lot of really good stuff!


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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: January 26
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Look, friends, the only possible way to enjoy life is not to be afraid to die. A zest for living requires a willingness to die; you cannot have the first without the second. The '60s and '70s and '80s and '90s can be loaded with the zest for living, high excitement, and gutsy adventure for any truly human person. Truly human? I mean you descendants of cavemen who outlasted the saber-tooth, you who..

Another Heinlein quote. It was a big hit.

303 looks, 51 likes and 22 shares


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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: February 18
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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: February 21


This is weird! Does space really have a smell? Apparently so. Astronauts claim that an odor clings to their spacesuits when they return from a spacewalk.
Want to Smell Space? Sniff a Cosmic Candle

Nerdy toy makers used input from scientists to create a candle that smells like space.


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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: February 20


The Heinlein Society shared Space.com's photo.

51 years ago, on Feb. 20, 1962, John Glenn became the first American to orbit the Earth, piloting Friendship 7 three times around the Earth in about five hours. http://oak.ctx.ly/r/2hmt


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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: February 20



The Heinlein Society shared a link via Robert Heinlein: Virginia Edition Collection.

Robert A. Heinlein's Citizen of the Galaxy Graphic Novel

Citizen of the Galaxy will be the first of 40+ Heinlein books planned for this Virginia Edition graphic novel collection.


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I have my doubts on this because of the drawing shown to illustrate.

Where in any of Heinlein's books was there a 2-headed woman with 3 breasts?

Is that a play on Joe-Jim or some kind of reference to Laz-Lor?


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I'm not seeing the picture you're talking about. Is it in the ~2 minute video at http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/erg ... -graphic-n ? I like the pictures I see there.


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I believe the picture David's talking about is further down the page if you keep scrolling down you should see it. It doesn't look like any of Heinlein's specific characters but rather just a SF generalization. There are also some very good drawings on this site of characters that do come from Citizen of the Galaxy.

I signed up for the least expensive book I saw. Two of my grandsons are too young for Heinlein's books but would like picture books. This might be just what I've been looking for. Wish they could be available sooner than 2014.

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Why is a Heinlein graphic novel series a Kickstarter project? Or do I need to ask?


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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: February 22


This statement is the last sentence in a letter RAH wrote to a business friend of his; Armand B Coigne. It was written in 1946 and RAH is referring to a statement from Jeanne Cartmill about humanity trying to blow itself up with nuclear weapons. RAH says we humans will not be stopped in our quest. The survivors will continue.

"No, old Friend, you and I were meant to rove the stars; no little chain reaction will stop us."

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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: January 17
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The Heinlein Society shared a link.


Remembering Virginia "Ginny" Heinlein... April 22, 1916 – January 18, 2003. "Heaven is where Margrethe is."

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[quote="thinker"]I believe the picture David's talking about is further down the page if you keep scrolling down you should see it. It doesn't look like any of Heinlein's specific characters but rather just a SF generalization. There are also some very good drawings on this site of characters that do come from Citizen of the Galaxy.

Since I don't have a Facebook account to log-in to, I guess I'll never see the picture that David is talking about. And since I will never have a Facebook account, I guess John's "Heinlein on Facebook" thread will need less of my attention than the other threads in the forum. By that I mean "with the exception of other Heinlein Form denizens contributing non-Facebook comments to something John called our attention to."

[Edit added closing quote mark. Sigh.]

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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: February 26.


Good luck on Fridays' launch from the Heinlein Society. Safe travels.
The Falcon 9 rocket and Dragon spacecraft in SpaceX’s hangar! Just T-4 days until launch, targeted for this Friday March 1 at 10:10AM ET.


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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: January 16.

Another valuable article I re-discovered while digging around in my files for something I lost is Geo Rule's accounting of the 2007 Centennial Celebration; What I Saw and Did at the 2007 Heinlein Centennial. If you've never read this or haven't read it for a couple years go read it. It's on the Heinlein website; . Make sure you read all 31 pages. Great stuff. Thank you Geo.


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The very first thread on this sub-forum has a ton of good stuff about the Centennial as well. I just went back and reviewed it for the first time in a long while. What a magical - and I don't use that term loosely - event.

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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: Today. March 2.


Democracy is based on the assumption that a million men are wiser than one. How’s that again? I missed something.

Autocracy is based on the assumption that one man is wiser than a million men. Let’s play that over again, too. Who decides?

Heinlein, Robert A. (2010-12-02). The Notebooks of Lazarus Long (Kindle Locations 264 & 268). . Kindle Edition.

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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: January 16.

I was doing research for another project and learned there are still a limited number of Heinlein Centennial Souvenir Books left. Have you been trying to find Atlantis, How to Write a Story, The Last Adventure, Week-End Watch, the Playboy Article or the navy Article about Rockets? These and some truly wonderful remembrances are in the book.



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Hello all. New member of this forum. Decided against the Facebook page because so much FB stuff is vapid, but I may not be sufficiently educated to discuss with you experts. I have read all the Heinlein fiction books (many times), but probably not a lot of the biographic stuff. Started reading Heinlein in the late 1960's and have just restarted, this time as audio books. I commute an hour a day and find that I don't lose this time if I have books to keep me company. This allows me to read two extra books a week. I have just started Methuselah's Children, thinking I needed to start at the beginning of Lazarus Long's (ie. Woodrow Wilson Smith) story. I think this is his beginning.

I will read your postings and if I feel I have something to contribute, then I'll give it a shot. Thanks for having me.

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Welcome to the Forum BriarPatch.

There are many levels of Heinlein readers who attend here. Most read*, but don't post, much to my sorrow. I don't believe that anyone should hesitate to share his/her opinions and certainly not questions from whatever level they come.

I have been a reader of Heinlein for 61 years and still enjoy learning new things from comments made by others, and seeing his works from fresh viewpoints, and yes, I still read and re-read Heinlein quite often.

I was intrigued by your username as I went to high school two blocks away from the home of Joel Chandler Harris who wrote the Brer Rabbit stories with his famous tale of the Briar Patch.

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Oh yes, I grew up in a time when the Brer Rabbit and other Uncle Remus tales were typical children's fare. But my user name stems from the name of the farm where I live. My partner's father referred to his place as the Briarpatch, where he retired some 36 years ago. We live on the place with him, in our own house which we built ourselves (two old ladies). He lives in the front with his youngest daughter and her husband, and we share a driveway. He just turned 99 years old last month. My partner is 71 and still hides smoking from her father! Actually, we eloped to Massachusetts last month and married on Feb. 8. We decided that 27 years was a long enough engagement. Her father gave his blessing. My parents are both long dead.

Every time I try to decide which of Heinlein's books is my favorite, I end up with a long list. I have decided I cannot choose. All of them are wonderful in my estimation. I have never been disappointed by one. I read The Moon is a Harsh Mistress a few months ago, and it had been long enough that I had forgotten the end. That is a blessing. Hoping this happens with others as I reread them now. I have one other writer that wrote for a long while, that I also have read and reread every book, and that is Rex Stout and his Nero Wolfe series. I am the moderator of the Yahoo Group for that series. That's why I went looking for a forum like this one.

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Nice to hear from you. You're a true Heinlein fan.


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My welcome, also, Charlene. I don't consider myself in the same class of Heinlein knowledge as some of the posters on this forum but I enjoy reading it and I post when I think I have something to contribute. I think you'll find it well worth your time.

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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: January 13.

On the 13th I asked for help up-dating the FAQs. This task if complete and the new FAQs are posted on the new site.


This is the Society website not the Facebook page. Go by and have a look. If you have a favorite FAQ you don't see listed I can put it there.
Thanks to Jim Gifford. I borrowed a couple FAQs from his site.

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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: March 8.

I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
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No statement should be believed because it is made by an authority.
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How true. Cheers.............. :)

1,320 people have come by to look.


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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: January 12.

I propose to hang onto this life as long as I can and learn as much as I can. Maybe wisdom and understanding are reserved for a later existence and maybe they aren’t for us at all, ever. Either way, I'm satisfied to be living and enjoying it. Mary my sweet, carpe that old diem! -- it's the only game in town.

Heinlein, Robert A. (2011-12-14). Methuselah's Children (Kindle Locations 2944-2946). . Kindle Edition.

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Today I made a pitch on Facebook for Bill Patterson's The Heinlein Journal which can now be purchased with PayPal.

The web addy is:


This is not new news for many of us but our new members may not know that Bill is a member of this Forum and frequently chimes in on discussions.

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This is the Heinlein Facebook page post from: January 7.
This is the Magazine cover picture from RAH's first published story.
August 1939 in Astounding Science Fiction Heinlein's First Story was Published.

There are some that have questioned Robert's tale of writing Life-Line for a contest. All his life he maintained the contest story so most believe this is correct.



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Is that picture of Life Line or another story in the issue?


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I assume that it represents Lester Del Rey's 'Luck of ignatz'


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I found this listing on a website, Abebooks that has a used copy for sale. RAH didn't get top billing for his first story. Pretty pricey.



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Vol. XXIII, No. 6. Cover by Finlay for "The Luck of Ignatz" (novelette) by Lester del Rey. Includes "General Swamp - C.I.C." by Frederick Englehardt (L. Ron Hubbard); "The Blue Giraffe" (novelette) by L. Sprague de Camp; "Pleasure Trove" (novelette) by P. Schuyler Miller; "Heavy Planet" by Lee Gregor; "Life-Line" (1st story) by Robert A. Heinlein; "Stowaway" by Nelson S. Bond; "An Ultimatum from Mars" by Ray Cummings. Article: "Space War" by Willy Ley. Illustrated by Cartier, Gilmore, Islip, Koll, Ley and Wesso.


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Pricey indeed, that's around US$300.

Mine is almost press-new, as are many in my collection. I again begin to think I should catalog it for sale...


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This is an Astounding cover posted last night by another Heinlein Facebook page. They seem to forget copyrights and frequently post cover art. I don't, but I still post cover art occasionally. Notice Heinlein got top billing this time.


This is the Facebook addy for the other Heinlein site. They have a lot more traffic than our site.



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This is my post from last night.
A long and wicked life followed by five minutes of perfect grace gets you into Heaven. An equally long life of decent living and good works followed by one outburst of taking the name of the Lord in vain - then have a heart attack at that moment and be damned for eternity. Is that the system?

– Robert A. Heinlein.

It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.

-- Robert A. Heinlein. Postscript to Revolt in 2100.

It has already had more than 1,472 views. Fans really like these sayings. Even more so than cover art.


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Jim. Thanks for the info.

Is it the same for book covers? Would the first cover for Star Ship Galileo be public domain?


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Beyond Doubt is in this one.



Not the best cover, but I like them all anyway.


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There's an iPod joke in there somewhere, but I can't make it come together.


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Mention of Heinlein in this book.

The story line includes a bit part for Heinlein. I haven't been able to read it. Too much other stuff on my plate. I scanned it using the look inside feature and Heinlein shows up on several pages. I believe the main characters are wannabe SF writers. They get invited to a Manana Society meeting and meet all the great writers of the period. Maybe someone on the Forum can tell us more?



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Another Heinlein Facebook page posted this magazine cover.


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I posted these two sayings last night. About 1500 people have stopped by for a look.

There is no such thing as luck; there is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe.

Heinlein, Robert A. (2011-04-19). Have Space Suit - Will Travel (Kindle Locations 232-233). . Kindle Edition.

good luck’ follows careful preparation; ‘bad luck’ comes from sloppiness.

Heinlein, Robert A. (2011-04-19). Have Space Suit - Will Travel (Kindle Locations 4091-4092). . Kindle Edition.

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I posted this picture a little while ago. Dragon has left the space station and is firing thrusters to return to earth. Quite a view. I still remember when the space program began I was only a kid. I was living in Daytona Beach and could see many of the launches from the south. Couldn't see any details because of the distance, just a fireball rising into the sky.

This morning I went out to watch the space station traveling overhead. I subscribe to the NASA space station watch program. Too many clouds.


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Dragon lands safely. The capsule in now aboard ship and heading to the California coast.



Congratulations SpaceX.


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The Citizen of the Galaxy Kickstarter project made goal today.

Thanks to all of you for your support.


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This is a very good cover. Lazarus Long in the flesh. Excellent choice of colors. Even the pose, the brash confidence seems correct. Robert said in a letter E.E. "Doc" Smith was his model for Lazarus.

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Posted this this evening.

The people will take a certain amount of reform, then they want a rest. But the reforms stay. People don’t really want change, any change at all—and xenophobia is very deep-rooted. But we progress, as we must—if we are to go out to the stars.

Heinlein, Robert A. (2011-05-12). Double Star (p. 242). . Kindle Edition.

The stars will never be won by little minds; we must be big as space itself.”

Heinlein, Robert A. (2011-05-12). Double Star (p. 123). . Kindle Edition.

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Elsewhere, by Caleb Saunders
September 1941 in Astounding Science Fiction

(Saunders being another Heinlein pen name)
Reprinted in Assignment in Eternity, as "Elsewhen".

Analysis of the sexual ethics of the story, here:


Quote from the story:

"Huh? Good heavens, doctor, surely you don’t believe in divine predestination!”
“Perhaps not in those terms. But, Howard, you mechanistic skeptics make me tired. Your naive ability to believe things ‘jest growed’ approaches childishness. According to you, a fortuitous accident of entropy produced Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony.”


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Another early story by Anson MacDonald. I don't like this one as much as I like Heinlein's other stories. I hesitate to say I don't like BY HIS BOOTSTRAPS because I like all RAH stories. So I say I like this one less than others.

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That's a cool cover and I have not seen it before. Thanks for posting it. I do like BY HIS BOOTSTRAPS and recommend the audio play produced for the Beyond 2000 series which aired on NPR and available for free here:

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Different strokes, indeed, Jack. BHB is one of my favorite RAH stories also.

Say what you will about the "early Heinlein" works vs the "late Heinlein" works [and carloads of printer's ink have been expended discussing the pros and cons of both], as I reread RAH I find myself less sure about my earlier estimations of the worth of each versus the other, and more appreciative of RAH's entire body of work.

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Timothy Darling posted this cover pic on Facebook on the Heinlein Forum. Double Star from February 1956.

I do like By His Bootstraps. I like all of Heinlein's stories. I just like some more than others. I like Lost Legacy and Pied Piper and Waldo and Magic, Inc. and... BHB is confusing and so is All You Zombies. Maybe it's the time travel part that puzzles me. Maybe I'll read them a 3rd time.

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Maybe these can help
Timeline for BHB:
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Timeline for AYZ:
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David - I have seen similar schematics before, but not as detailed. These are great! Thanks for sharing. I think I'll try to put them on Heinlein Facebook page. I've never tried to move images from here to there before so I don't know for sure that I can do it.

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My post for today:
Listen to me. I don't know much about women, and sometimes it seems like I didn't know anything about them. But I'm sure of this - she won't let a little thing like you taking a pot shot at her stand in the way if you ever had any chance with her at all. She'll forgive you.

You don't really mean that, do you? Monroe-Alpha's face was still tragic, but he clutched at the hope.

Certainly I do. Women will forgive anything. With a flash of insight he added, Otherwise the race would have died out long ago.

Heinlein, Robert A. (2012-03-24). Beyond This Horizon (Kindle Locations 2708-2713). . Kindle Edition.

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Lost Legion, by Lyle Monroe
November 1941 in Super Science Stories
Another Heinlein pen name

Was originally, and subsequently, called Lost Legacy, but was renamed for publication in Super Science Stories.

This is another nice picture.


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Did you guys know about this?? Took me by complete surprise.

Geo Rule Just saw a description of the plot.


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Based on what I have been able to see, about the only connection to AYZ is that it is about time travel. It's the old go-into-the-past to change events which is the total opposite of what AYZ was about.


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Yeah, it's in pre with about six people attached. Nice poster, though. Spells "Heinlein" right and everything.


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Beyond This Horizon, by Anson MacDnald
March 1942 in Astounding Science Fiction (2 photos)
A serial published in 1942 under a Heinlein pen name, was published as a novel in 1948, by Fantasy Press.

I've not seen this cover. It's different from the typical Sci-Fi cover. Very-very nice.

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There's a space shuttle in COTG? I can't get a bigger version of the image to read the text.


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The Heinlein Society is pleased to announce our second annual scholarship essay contest for the 2013-2014 academic year.



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Do not confuse “duty” with what other people expect of you; they are utterly different. Duty is a debt you owe to yourself to fulfill obligations you have assumed voluntarily. Paying that debt can entail anything from years of patient work to instant willingness to die. Difficult it may be, but the reward is self-respect. But there is no reward at all for doing what other people expect of you, and to do so is not merely difficult, but impossible. It is easier with a footpad than it is with the leech who wants “just a few minutes of your time, please—this won’t take long.” Time is your total capital, and the minutes of your life are painfully few. If you allow yourself to fall into the vice of agreeing to such requests, they quickly snowball to the point where these parasites will use up 100 percent of your time—and squawk for more! So learn to say NO—and to be rude about it when necessary. Otherwise you will not have time to carry out your duty, or to do your own work, and certainly no time for love and happiness. The termites will nibble away your life and leave none of it for you. (This rule does not mean you must not do a favor for a friend, or even a stranger. But let the choice be yours. Don’t do it because it is “expected” of you.)

Heinlein, Robert A. (2010-12-02). The Notebooks of Lazarus Long (Kindle Locations 728-733). . Kindle Edition.
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I found this image on this facebook page:

I believe most know about the record and Leonard Nimoy but I had never seen the picture before. Very nice. Cheers.


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I posted this today on Facebook:

Your real job is to learn how to think—and that means you must study several other subjects: epistemology, scientific methodology, semantics, structures of languages, patterns of ethics and morals, varieties of logics, motivational psychology, and so on. This school is based on the idea that a man who can think correctly will automatically behave morally—or what we call ‘morally.’

Heinlein, Robert A. (2010-04-01). Space Cadet (pp. 74-75). Macmillan. Kindle Edition.

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Deb Houdek Rule posted this on the THS Facebook page. It's a great article.

Tale of the Adopted Granddaughter: The Heinleins' adopted granddaughter, Amy Baxter, is Paying It Forward as inventor of a medical device to take the pain out of injections.

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I shamelessly borrowed this from another Heinlein Facebook page. I'm bad. Never seen this one before.



They Do It with Mirrors, by Simon York
May 1947 in Popular Detective
Perhaps the only contemporary, conventional murder mystery written by the Dean of Science Fiction. Published under a pen name


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That was the last addition to my collection - VERY difficult to locate. Detective magazines were down from their peak popularity (pre-war) and no one saved or collected them - not as much as sf/f, anyway.

I think I saw three come up for sale in 10+ years.


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This is my latest post:

What are the marks of a sick culture? It is a bad sign when the people of a country stop identifying themselves with the country and start identifying with a group. A racial group. Or a religion. Or a language. Anything, as long as it isn't the whole population. A very bad sign. Particularism. It was once considered a Spanish vice but any country can fall sick with it. Dominance of males over females seems to be one of the symptoms. Before a revolution can take place, the population must lose faith in both the police and the courts. High taxation is important and so is inflation of the currency and the ratio of the productive to those on the public payroll. But that's old hat; everybody knows that a country is on the skids when its income and outgo get out of balance and stay that way - even though there are always endless attempts to wish it way by legislation. But I started looking for little signs and what some call silly-season symptoms. I want to mention one of the obvious symptoms: Violence. Muggings. Sniping. Arson. Bombing. Terrorism of any sort.
Heinlein, Robert A. (Printed July 1997). Friday. Page 249-250. A Del Ray Book.

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I wonder why Heinlein draws the line at the national level. It may be convenient, but why not identify with the planet, or the human race? Just so there's still some division left to have competition and conflict?


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Because the number of issues you share with a farmer in Xichuan or a shopkeeper in Nairobi is pretty limited, and because there are limits to the scale of government at the individual interface level. There are good reasons for social/political divisions; the problem is what we're seeing now, increasing balkanization down to extended family groups.


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Deb posted this on the THS website

Rather than a cause of sadness, this milestone reminds us of the strength and lasting impact of Heinlein, his wisdom, and his works, and how they are, and will, reach into the future. Heinlein has never been out-of-print, and thanks to the Citizen of the Galaxy graphic novel program, is poised to reach out to a new generation in a new way.

Read the whole article. It's a wonderful tribute.


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The Black Pits of Luna
January 10, 1948
in Saturday Evening Post
Part of the Future History

A boy scout's trip to the moon.

This was published not in a Science Fiction pulp, but the Saturday Evening Post.

This is an illustration for the story, from "Children's Hour Science Fiction & Readers Guide" in 1954
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I think that scale of government is something of a phantom argument; government will always be whatever size it needs to be. Whether it's an absolutely monolithic national (or supra-national) government with ten thousand departments, or state governments with two thousand departments each, or township governments with a hundred departments each, the need of each citizen for services (direct, indirect or invisible) from some large number of those departments means they must exist somewhere.

The idea of what level is responsible for what tier of services is the only real variable, and I'd contend that within loose definitions this division also finds its own level, adjusting over time.

I utterly reject the notion that industrial nations contending in a global economy can do with any significantly smaller government than they presently have. Rearrange it, sure. Change the nominal politics, sure. Make it more or less efficient on a spot basis, sure. But reduce it? Not going to happen.

(DWsr, feel free to split off these comments to another thread. The problem with a long-running thread that is updated with interesting and provocative posts is the danger of spiraling way off topic.)


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Thanks. I knew about the "find similar" but not the start-with-your-own feature.


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Cover by Joe Musial. Heinlein was told in a casual conversation with one of his publishers that male writers couldn't write for girls. As usual he took this as a challenge and wrote several stories for teenage girls. Poor daddy was included in Requiem: New Collected Works by Robert A. Heinlein And Tributes To The Grand Master.
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Poor Daddy
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August 1949 in Calling All Girls
Conventional fiction, written for teenage girls. This is the first of three stories about Maureen, aka Puddin

Podkayne's personality is taken from this character, of whom Heinlein was fond.

Maureen is, of course, later used as the name of a key Heinlein character.

This is a beautiful picture. Timothy Darling is looking for the mag if you've got a copy.


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I've spent 25 year looking for a copy of this and the other 'girls magazine' appearance - apparently the same magazine, under a name change to "Senior Prom." They weren't a saved or collected kind of mag and are thus very, very rare.

One of the more amusing points here is that the article was published under "R.A. Heinlein," and a short bio column appeared in the magazine. If you go read J. Neil Schulman's attempt to beat the pseudonym and publication out of Heinlein in 1974, you can read RAH's barely-concealed guffaws beneath the transcript.

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I posted this on THS Facebook today. Sounds like a lot of activity but not much progress.



With his 1979 novel "The Fountains of Paradise," science-fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke introduced the idea of space elevators to the mainstream scientific community and the general public.


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I posted this saying today.

“No man is an island—“ Much as we may feel and act as individuals, our race is a single organism, always growing and branching—which must be pruned regularly to be healthy. This necessity need not be argued; anyone with eyes can see that any organism which grows without limit always dies in its own poisons. The only rational question is whether pruning is best done before or after birth. Being an incurable sentimentalist I favor the former of these methods—killing makes me queasy, even when it’s a case of “He’s dead and I’m alive and that’s the way I wanted it to be.” But this may be a matter of taste. Some shamans think that it is better to be killed in a war, or to die in childbirth, or to starve in misery, than never to have lived at all. They may be right. But I don’t have to like it, and I don’t. Heinlein, Robert A. (2010-12-02). The Notebooks of Lazarus Long (Kindle Locations 272-281). . Kindle Edition.

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Cover art by William Heaslip. This is a humorous story about family life aboard a spaceship or flying travel trailer during a time when thousands of Americans roamed the highways in travel trailers in search of adventure. The novel also introduced beloved characters that later became part of Lazarus Long's immortal family. Thanks to the Robert Anson Heinlein Page.

Tramp Space Ship
September 1952 in Boy's Life (5 photos)
by Robert Anson Heinlein

Originally entitled The Heavenly Twins, then printed in Boy's Life as Space Tramp Ship, in Britain as Space Family Stone...this became one of his most popular Juvenile novels:

THE ROLLING STONES

This novel went on to become a folk song, a pop magazine, and rock band, and then a proverb, and the flat cats inspired tribbles, rabbits in Australia, and wealthy capitalists.

An audiobook version was released in 2005, with a full cast instead of one reader.


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A lovely cover, but it's all but irrelevant to the story. I guess it's vaguely a space ship thing, which is all we can hope for in most cover art...


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I recently updated FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions About Robert A. Heinlein The Person, on The Heinlein Society Website. You will find it at this link below. Scroll down to the very last question. Sorry about the jump but the answer is too long to post here. Thanks to Bill Patterson for allowing it to be used by the Society.
My take on this is Heinlein realized that our society caused much grief by trying to force people into strict moral codes that suited Mrs. Grundy. He believed that much of our society's misbehavior could be cured/improved by more openness.



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Mike Sheffield, President of The Heinlein Society posted this on Facebook. You might find it interesting.



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I posted this last Friday.

Moving parts in rubbing contact require lubrication to avoid excessive wear. Honorifics and formal politeness provide lubrication where people rub together. Often the very young, the untraveled, the naïve, the unsophisticated deplore these formalities as “empty,” “meaningless,” or “dishonest,” and scorn to use them. No matter how “pure” their motives, they thereby throw sand into machinery that does not work too well at best.

Heinlein, Robert A. (2010-12-02). The Notebooks of Lazarus Long (Kindle Locations 308-311). Kindle Edition.


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I'm certain this is probably old information.

You may remember Prophets of Science Fiction was on the Science Channel last year. PoSF is now available on Netflix. Robert Heinlein is featured in episode number 7. I don't have Netflix so I can't give the URL. PoSF is also available from Amazon for $1.99 per episode. Heinlein is episode #7. It's available from iTunes too. A fan of this page asked us to start a discussion about this program. OK - here it is - add a comment - start a thread. What do you think of the program?



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Congratulations China! Someday Chinese astronauts will be aboard the International Space Station.

A Chinese space capsule carrying a crew of three docked with the nation's orbiting space module yesterday (June 13), two days after launch, completing the countries longest spaceflight and fifth manned mission.



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Hmm... Should we fix it up?

In this interview Elon Musk talks about fixing up Mars. It seems Mars is not a good place. Is it more trouble than it's worth?





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I don't understand why we don't develop technology on the moon rather than heading to Mars. I know the moon will only be a "bus stop" in the future but wouldn't it be easier to develop living quarters, surface transportation, food production, energy production, mining, machining and machine development, tools, medicine, medical care, etc. on the moon first. Where ever we go we'll need to be able to support ourselves when we get there. At first that support will come from off planet. Maybe we'll drag a huge space station that can provide support along.


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Everything that the Moon supplies will have to have been ferried there from Earth to begin with, so there would be a net delta-V penalty to getting it from the Moon. The Moon doesn't have any meaningful supplies of its own that skip that penalty, unless mining ice and He3 count.


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The issue is that both Mars and Luna are equally difficult to get to; the only difference is the longer transit time to Mars. They're even about the same size and Mars's trivial atmosphere makes no difference vs. Luna's nonexistent one. The difference is that Mars has potential for human development up to and including full terraforming, while Luna is going to be a dead ball of rock until we acquire godlike technological powers. Mars has just enough going for it that we can scratch out a toehold and then make something of that tenuous grasp; Luna is going to be an uphill technological battle, requiring continual input from Earth and with no point of self-sufficiency in sight.

If we're going to try and colonize a world, Mars is a better choice than Luna in almost every respect. There's little to be gained from wasting time and effort on Luna first.

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The question of moon vs mars becomes moot, given the current and foreseeable dissarray in the US Congress that is liable to affect the US for decades. I suspect it will be Russia that decides the question of where the next extra-terrestrial space mission will go.

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The only president who did much to enable our space program accomplished his goals by being assassinated. Most presidents give lukewarm lip service to the space program and let boosters in the public and Congress carry the load.

I don't think even the most pro-space president could do much in four or eight years to create a truly vigorous space effort. Not alone, anyway. And not while NASA remains the agency in charge.


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Anyone want to make a guess on the delivered and installed costs of that Moon Base depicted in thinker's post? Out of the realm of possibility given the realities of Congress, today and in the foreseeable future. Several Presidents will come and go while Congress sorts itself out - if it ever does.

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The cost of NASA doing such an effort - which is our only reference point for interplanetary travel - is certainly *cough* astronomical, and easy enough to slap a BOTE guess of mumble trillion$ on.

Private enterprise, however, could change that considerably. Comparing their costs for developing and operating, say, the DC-X compared to similar NASA efforts, a ratio of 1:50 seems ... conservative. The issue there is more the will than perhaps the way. But one billionaire with a crazy enough dream might manage it...


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I wrote an *ahem* short story a few years ago based on terraforming Mars. It is as yet unpublished, but if anyone wants to read it, PM me.

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Remember the Galileo? I was in senior high school then. It has been fully restored and is on it's way to Houston.

Look here to get a better picture:

Way cool! Cheers.


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Very cool, but I'm not sure most of that "crew" would fit through the hatch... :roll:


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#‎Heinlein‬ Trivia Test: “My name is Dave Devro. I don't belong here. I was born near Arcturus.” This is a 1st draft start to which Heinlein novel?

This one isn't in the Heinlein Concordance, nor, as far as I know, published anywhere, so Googling won't bring up the answer. It's a tidbit from the Online Heinlein Archives from the Opus manuscript file for this story. (The Heinlein Archives is available to the public, operated by the Heinlein Prize Trust, not a part of the Heinlein Society.)

Deb posted this trivia question on The Heinlein Society Facebook page. The answer is posted there too - so don't cheat or spoil the question for others.

Got the answer? It's a tough one but my money is on you guys. I bet one of you will answer it today.


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I have seen the question but not the answer. My first guess was Double Star but I already know that is wrong. My second guess would be Friday, but it's not a perfect fit. My final answer pro tem is Orphans of the Sky.


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One of the juveniles, almost certainly. Best guess: Star Beast.


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Holy Crap, that's a tough one! So, it's the starting line of a first draft, which implies that the line didn't make it into the final draft. May I also assume the character's name "Dave Devro" didn't survive the editing process? The possibilities are vast, but most likely from a juvie. Hmmm...

Farmer in the Sky? Nah. "Not from here", that's the key. Space Cadet? No, the main characters are all terrestrial.

Consulting The Bible, aka Jim Gifford's online opus.

Only juvenile that could possibly work is Citizen of the Galaxy.

I'm wrong, though, aren't I? :D

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As the biblical author, I am embarrassed to have missed that choice. I was doing the same thing as Jack, working backwards from non-terrestrial characters to an opening line like that, and a thought that Star Beast might have originally been plotted on a non-Earth setting was all I could come up with.

But, like, duh. Good catch, Jack.


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Trivia question. Which book did this quote come from?

At least once every human should have to run for his life, to teach him that milk does not come from supermarkets, that safety does not come from policemen, that news is not something that happens to other people.

Robert Heinlein

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Hmm. Does not ring a bell, but I'll hazard a guess at Friday.


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No it's not STAR BEAST

I'll post the correct answer at the end of today.

The trivia questions generate a a lot of interest on Facebook and Twitter. Especially those that include a Heinlein quote. Do any of you have some ideas I can use?


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I goofed. I may be wrong, but now I am thinking Tunnel In the Sky


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It has a Lazaras Long feel to it.

I guess Methuselah's Children.


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Time Enough for Love? (My all-time favorite Heinlein opus.)

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At least once every human should have to run for his life, to teach him that milk does not come from supermarkets, that safety does not come from policemen, that news is not something that happens to other people.

The answer is NUMBER OF THE BEAST.


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Trivia question. This quote came from one of Heinlein's books. Which one?

The biscuits and the syrup never come out even.

Here's another I did recently on Facebook.


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It's a Lazarus Long quote but I find that I can no longer sort those out by book. I'll hazard a guess at Sunset.


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Wusses. The answer is "The Man Who Traveled in Elephants."


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Ding ding, we have a winner. (Was it that easy?)


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Well taint no fun if you cheat. At least give the others time to try.

I'm on the mailing list. What did you use to do the rebelmouse aggregation?


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Twitter, Facebook and the Heinlein website. Rebelmouse automatically chooses content and we can manually add content too. I added all the Heinlein Society directors for instance. The program is new and we're still thinking about our setup. I think it is great because it gives us a tool to communicate with the members that won't go to Facebook.

Post another question - I'll not answer. Cheers.


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Nope. Later.


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Correct. The general tone of Friday's attitude towards "authorities" matches this extract.


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In 1982 the Missouri Capitol Society created a Hall of Famous Missourians "dedicated to instructing visitors to the Capitol in the outstanding contributions that Missourians have made to the world."
Current House Speaker Tim Jones has empowered the people of Missouri to decide the next outstanding Missourians to be honored by induction into the hall.

Please go to this link to nominate Heinlein. Unfortunately it appears that nominations may only be entered by Missourians.


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From the "So you think you're a hardcore Heinlein fan? Can you top this?" files.
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:lol: Turning 70 in six days. 13 years in the USMC and I was never tempted to get a tattoo. As avid an RAH fan as I am, and as much as I appreciate yours, I'll continue passing on adorning myself with body art. ;)

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Oh. My favourite short story. Fingers crossed.


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Maybe, if the characters played by Hawke and Snook turn out to be the same person :lol: , that might qualify as being based on AYZ. Otherwise, based on what I see in the trailer, I can't see any connection other than it deals with time travel.


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It seemed pretty clear to me that it does contain Heinlein's story. What I have doubt about is the extra plot line (the "Fizzle bomber", in the story just a brief mention of the "Fizzle War of 1963") added to the story. I assume that was done to add drama and action to the movie. I'm willing to wait and see the movie to judge if it works.

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Looking back at the trailer, I realized that my mind pictures of the characters was so totally different from what was being shown, and combined with the 'Fizzle Bomber' subplot, that I was thrown off completely from noticing any other similarities.

I couldn't get past the fact that what's her name simply looked like a girl dressed in men's clothes and the bartender in the story was many years older than shown in the trailer.

Maybe if Hawke had been shown as the younger version and someone like Bruce Willis as the older version, I might have been less critical. And I will bet that the movie includes a stormy sex scene, different from the off-scene way Heinlein did it.

Like the movie Starship Troopers, I will probably watch it once and then put it out of mind for ever after.

I don't believe that Gee-Gollywood will ever be able to accurately produce an acceptable adaptation of a Heinlein story. But, I am prejudiced.


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David, I am not so negative based on the little we got from the trailer. It may not matter, but this is not a Hollywood movie. It was made in Australia.

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Without looking into it. Is say it was bankrolled from America though. Australia doesn't really produce genre films, well a few exceptions of course.
In the right hands the story could make a great film. Although unless you spelled it out very clearly it could be confusing and by spelling it out it could be insulting.
In two minds. I'll go in with an open mind but won't expect too much.


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The writers/directors/producers, the Spierig brothers, were born in Germany but have lived in Australia since they were four. This is only their third film though the previous two were fairly successful. The only American in the production is Ethan Hawke. It was financed by Screen Australia. Sony is distributing the film but they did not pick it up until after it was completed. From what I can read, it is pretty much an Australian film, definitely not "Hollywood." However, I agree about going in with low expectations, especially to see how much of a "Heinlein" movie it is.

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Oh thanks that's interesting. I wish I knew. I have a degree on film an have worked in the industry a little. Made a feature in America in 2001. I would have volunteered to be involved in a Heinlein feature :)


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The film adaptation of "-All You Zombies-", Predestination, had a premiere at the SXSW film festival. Here are a couple of interviews with the writers/directors that were done there:




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Not sure if any of you have seen this yet; My wife and I went to see it a few weeks ago.
I thought it a competent adaptation. It stuck to the story - although I'll admit I haven't read it in a while and there may have been liberties taken - but the essential plot elements appear to be intact.


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