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Author:  RobertPearson [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:32 am ]
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http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=3434

"Brin’s error matters to me personally because, as much as I am anything else, I am one of Heinlein’s children. I have closely studied his works and his life, and that study has shaped me. What I have given to the world through my advocacy of open source is directly tied back to what the Old Man taught me about liberty, transparency, and moral courage. And I am never more Heinlein’s child than when I advocate for an armed (and polite) society."

Brin's piece is at http://torforge.wordpress.com/2010/07/1 ... avid-brin/

Author:  LilLeaguer [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:31 pm ]
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Author:  holmesiv [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:06 pm ]
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OK, what was Brin's error?

Author:  vranger [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:10 am ]
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"Alas, most of his novels reach a vigorous climax, concluding part one… and then peter out disappointingly in the last half, amid a morass of garrulous talk."

The above was the most incredible statement I found in the article. It sounds like it was written by someone who'd rather watch "Kill Bill" than "12 Angry Men". LOL

Author:  BillMullins [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:21 am ]
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Author:  RobertPearson [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:43 am ]
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Author:  holmesiv [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:44 pm ]
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Author:  VeraLenora [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:05 pm ]
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Most Heinlein novels reach a radical change in the middle, most often a test of some kind that our hero fails. In the rest of the novel solutions must be found, character must grow.

Author:  JackKelly [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:55 am ]
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One must admit, I think, that Heinlein frequently had trouble with endings; one notable exception being Stranger, and there are others. I have always thought that. One of the more disappointing endings was Double Star, though I've seen opinion that it was one of his strongest.

Author:  JamesGifford [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:19 pm ]
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Author:  JackKelly [ Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:45 am ]
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Author:  JJGarsch [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:18 pm ]
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I'm not exactly sure how this ended up being about Double Star, but I have no complaint. As for its ending, it's a postscript to a memoir written 25 years earlier for therapeutic benefit, as is made clear; he doesn't need to write more than perfunctorily about his political career since he became Bonforte; this isn't for any audience but himself.

In any case I'm glad Double Star was included in the new Library of America two-volume set of nine SF novels of the 1950s.

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