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holmesiv
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:53 am Posts: 555
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American political discourse has come to this
http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0113/gingrichn.htmlCan you imagine Eisenhower or Stevenson stooping to this?
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PeterScott
Heinlein Nexus
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:10 am Posts: 2236 Location: Pacific NorthWest
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Re: American political discourse has come to this
I can't even imagine it of Reagan or Bush Sr.
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sakeneko
Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:22 am Posts: 603 Location: Reno, NV
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Re: American political discourse has come to this
Reagan and Bush Sr. were both gentlemen. I can't imagine *this* of Bush Jr., and my opinion of him is perhaps best left for that other topic. (wry grin) Gingrich is a character, to be sure. I think I'd like to meet him at a con sometime. But vote for him? I can't even consider his views on the issues because he's so volatile I'm afraid he'd declare war on somebody the day he was sworn in just because he didn't like them. :/
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RobWright
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:20 am Posts: 156 Location: Cloudcroft New Mexico
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Re: American political discourse has come to this
I know Jerry Pournelle is big on Newt. One of the the only complaints I have with his notes in Take Back Your Government was using the book as a platform to fawn over Newt. The other complaint was Pournelle seemed to give up about 2/3's of the way through the book. There were some interesting notes and stories he had included.
Rob
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holmesiv
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:53 am Posts: 555
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Re: American political discourse has come to this
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RobertPearson
Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 2:10 pm Posts: 445 Location: Juneau, AK
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Re: American political discourse has come to this
_________________ "There comes a time in the life of every human when he or she must decide to risk 'his life, his fortune, and his sacred honor' on an outcome dubious. Those who fail the challenge are merely overgrown children, can never be anything else."
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Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:36 pm |
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PeterScott
Heinlein Nexus
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:10 am Posts: 2236 Location: Pacific NorthWest
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Re: American political discourse has come to this
Well at least they had better vocabulary back then I voted for Perot. I didn't care where he came from or whether he was the best candidate. I did it because I wanted the status quo upset. The two parties have became way too cosy. They need someone to remove their sinecure.
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sakeneko
Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:22 am Posts: 603 Location: Reno, NV
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Re: American political discourse has come to this
That sounds like a vote for Ron Paul this time around.
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Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:14 pm |
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PeterScott
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Re: American political discourse has come to this
But he's running on the GOP ticket.
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sakeneko
Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:22 am Posts: 603 Location: Reno, NV
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Re: American political discourse has come to this
I mostly ignore political parties and just look at candidates, so that he's running on the GOP ticket (or any party ticket) doesn't bother me. Paul is essentially libertarian, not Republican. I voted for him as a protest vote in 1988 because I thought the choice between GHWB and Michael Dukakis was lame. (I've grown up a bit since.) <G>
I like Paul for President because I trust him to do exactly what he says he wants to do. I don't like Paul for President because I trust him to do exactly what he says he wants to do. <wry grin> The latter would almost certainly win out in my case. But it's annoying to have a choice between a failed president/mediocrity on the one hand (IMHO Stevens is prone to wishful thinking and hand waving) and a candidate whose ability to understand the needs and interests of the average American appears almost nil on the other (assuming Romney gets the election). :/
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holmesiv
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:53 am Posts: 555
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