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PeterScott
Heinlein Nexus
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:10 am Posts: 2236 Location: Pacific NorthWest
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Mars in 2018?
Can he do it?
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JamesGifford
PITA Bred
Joined: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:17 pm Posts: 2402 Location: The Quiet Earth
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Re: Mars in 2018?
Yeah, and maybe monkeys will fly outta my butt.
Five years isn't enough time to get a working craft together and into orbital tests, let alone ready for a 4-year journey.
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Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:26 pm |
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beamjockey
Centennial Attendee
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:46 am Posts: 545 Location: Aurora, IL, USA, Terra
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Re: Mars in 2018?
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:34 pm |
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PeterScott
Heinlein Nexus
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:10 am Posts: 2236 Location: Pacific NorthWest
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Re: Mars in 2018?
I'm no expert. My Monday morning quarterbacking says No Way, which is a pity, since I think Tito is a stand-up guy. But the main issue here is that the funding does not exist. If there was a couple of billion available - if Google wanted to carve their next doodle on Mars - then it might become more interesting. I don't believe that the technological issues have to take decades and trillions of dollars to solve just because that's the NASA way. The DC-X and Space-X have shown a different model.
I think the main problem here is that there's just nothing appealing about Mars. No indigenous life to exploit/chat with, no homesteading of any reasonable quality, no fields of diamonds to be plucked. It's a cold dry rock that sucks the life out of you and gets you no closer to anything better. If it was Earth-like we'd have had condos there forty years ago.
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Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:50 pm |
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JackKelly
NitroForum Oldster
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:57 am Posts: 669 Location: DC Metro
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Re: Mars in 2018?
I've discussed this topic dozens of times with my colleagues at NASA. As you state, there are existing engineering technologies that would enable a manned mission to Mars in fairly short order, if funding and political will were not obstacles. There remains, however, one technological barrier that has yet to be solved - how to adequately shield the astronauts from radiation, which is higher in interplanetary space than in Earth orbit, for the months required to transit from Earth to Mars. The problem is that conventional shielding methods add too much weight to the spacecraft. If astronauts were to attempt the transit without adequate radiation shielding, there's a good chance they'll arrive dead on delivery.
_________________ "Being right too soon is socially unacceptable." - Heinlein, Expanded Universe
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Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:38 am |
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DanHenderson
Centennial Attendee
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:21 am Posts: 786 Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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Re: Mars in 2018?
_________________ “Don’t believe everything you see on the Internet.” –Abraham Lincoln
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Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:35 am |
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PeterScott
Heinlein Nexus
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:10 am Posts: 2236 Location: Pacific NorthWest
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Re: Mars in 2018?
Found . He doesn't plan to land, only swing by Mars, taking advantage of a rare alignment that allows an 18 month round trip, half the usual.
That not landing bit is certainly helpful. Still no word on the radiation solution.
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Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:09 am |
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briarpatch39272
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:57 am Posts: 4
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Re: Mars in 2018?
Isn't the weight problem about boosting from earth. What about building the shielding in free fall like our friend Mr. Heinlein suggested? Materials sent in sections with other supplies maybe. Why is the shielding so heavy, because it's lead?
Probably a good reason, and I feel confident I will soon hear it.
Charlene
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briarpatch39272
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:57 am Posts: 4
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Re: Mars in 2018?
Yes I know mass is mass.
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Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:16 pm |
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JackKelly
NitroForum Oldster
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:57 am Posts: 669 Location: DC Metro
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Re: Mars in 2018?
_________________ "Being right too soon is socially unacceptable." - Heinlein, Expanded Universe
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Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:10 am |
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