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beamjockey
Centennial Attendee
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:46 am Posts: 545 Location: Aurora, IL, USA, Terra
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Stories: Citizen of the Galaxy (Opus 128/G.134) (Nov. 1956)
Over at the terrific new Tor.com site, Jo Walton is writing a column (blog?) on "re-reading." Yesterday she turned her attention to Citizen of the Galaxy, so correspondents here might want to take a look.
Jo has won the Campbell Award for best new writer, the World Fantasy Award, and the Prometheus Award. Heinlein has influenced her plenty.
_________________ Bill Higgins bill.higgins@gt.org http://beamjockey.livejournal.com
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BillPatterson
Heinlein Biographer
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:33 pm Posts: 1024
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Re: Stories: Citizen of the Galaxy (Opus 128/G.134) (Nov. 1956)
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RobertWFranson
NitroForum Oldster
Joined: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:57 pm Posts: 152
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Re: Stories: Citizen of the Galaxy (Opus 128/G.134) (Nov. 1956)
Yes, an interesting post by Jo Walton. And definitely too many "phony flaws" in Heinlein criticism.
Heinlein says in Grumbles from the Grave that "I want to cut and slant the serial (adult) version [of Citizen of the Galaxy] slightly differently from the Scribner's (juvenile) version. ... I am going to try this time to improve it a little for each market with some changes in emphasis."
I read the Astounding version several times before reading the Scribner version, but my last reading of the former was quite a while ago.
Has anyone done a close comparison of the Astounding and Scribner texts? And if so, is it public and accessible?
_________________ http://www.Troynovant.com/ - recurrent inspiration
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BillPatterson
Heinlein Biographer
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:33 pm Posts: 1024
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Re: Stories: Citizen of the Galaxy (Opus 128/G.134) (Nov. 1956)
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TinaBlack
Centennial Organizer
Joined: Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:34 pm Posts: 200
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Re: Stories: Citizen of the Galaxy (Opus 128/G.134) (Nov. 1956)
Hmmm ... I have a complete run of Astounding/Analog from 1946-1963. I have considered donating it to the SF library at the KU English Department. I managed to damage one of the issues while the magazines were in storage, but I can likely replace the damaged one. I have tried not to do too much to them because they are pretty fragile.
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JamesGifford
PITA Bred
Joined: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:17 pm Posts: 2402 Location: The Quiet Earth
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Topic Split
I have split this topic into two parts so that the original discussion of Citizen can proceed. The Centennial/VE/misc posts are now in a thread in the general RAH forum. Please continue that discussion there, and this discussion here.
_________________ "Hier stehe ich. Ich kann nicht anders." - Luther In the end, I found Heinlein is finite. Thus, finite analysis is needed.
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freesharon
Centennial Attendee
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:57 am Posts: 134
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Re: Topic Split
_________________ "There are three sides to every story: yours, mine, and the truth." (Robert Evans)
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RobertJames
Heinlein Nexus
Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:05 am Posts: 375
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Re: Stories: Citizen of the Galaxy (Opus 128/G.134) (Nov. 1956)
I agree with Bill that the structure of COTG is most definitely not wandering, unless you insist a novel remain in the same setting. It's actually quite sophisticated, not least of all which is the following: the novel heads in ever-spreading circles outward, physically, as it moves back to earth, while at the same time boring deeper inward, as Thorby comes to know who and what he is.
Quite a feat, that.
Robert
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kkken530
Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:53 pm Posts: 9
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Re: Stories: Citizen of the Galaxy (Opus 128/G.134) (Nov. 1956)
Came across this piece on COTG,and thought you might like to see it http://members.iglou.com/jtmajor/Citgalxy.htmVery good essay.
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JamesGifford
PITA Bred
Joined: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:17 pm Posts: 2402 Location: The Quiet Earth
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Re: Stories: Citizen of the Galaxy (Opus 128/G.134) (Nov. 1956)
Joe Major wrote a very thorough, if somewhat uneven book on the juveniles. I think this is one of the parts he published as an essay as well.
_________________ "Hier stehe ich. Ich kann nicht anders." - Luther In the end, I found Heinlein is finite. Thus, finite analysis is needed.
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RobertWFranson
NitroForum Oldster
Joined: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:57 pm Posts: 152
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Re: Stories: Citizen of the Galaxy (Opus 128/G.134) (Nov. 1956)
Yes, a very good analysis. Citizen of the Galaxy is not only a powerful story, but a subtle and sophisticated one.
_________________ http://www.Troynovant.com/ - recurrent inspiration
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DavidWrightSr
Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:24 am Posts: 265 Location: Northwest Georgia
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Re: Stories: Citizen of the Galaxy (Opus 128/G.134) (Nov. 1956)
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