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BillMullins
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Fred Pohl
Not many people left who knew Heinlein in the 1940s. The list just grew shorter by one -- Fred Pohl just . RIP
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sakeneko
Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:22 am Posts: 603 Location: Reno, NV
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Re: Fred Pohl
I saw this on rec.arts.sf.written, and then SFFNet. I met Pohl at Confrancisco in 1993, and then encountered him at various conventions over the following years. He was a wonderful storyteller about things SFNal, maybe not *quite* as amazing as Forrie Ackerman was but I learned a lot and enjoyed it. Pohl was a giant in the field, and fortunately a real human being in person. I'll miss him for both reasons.
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Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:46 pm |
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PeterScott
Heinlein Nexus
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:10 am Posts: 2236 Location: Pacific NorthWest
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Re: Fred Pohl
Another one of the greats now belongs to the ages.
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Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:34 pm |
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jeepojiii
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:42 pm Posts: 128 Location: Northern VA
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Re: Fred Pohl
Amen. Unlike Sakeneko, I never had the opportunity to meet Fred Pohl in person, but I always enjoyed and appreciated his writing.
_________________ OJ III
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Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:10 pm |
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JamesGifford
PITA Bred
Joined: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:17 pm Posts: 2402 Location: The Quiet Earth
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Re: Fred Pohl
In an extended discussion elsewhere and a check with some knowledgeable types, the conclusion was that Pohl was the last sf/f writer of significance with a pre-war publication - basically, the last of the Golden Agers.
A few minor writers probably survive, but of the names that made the Golden Age auriferous... we've run out.
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JackKelly
NitroForum Oldster
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:57 am Posts: 669 Location: DC Metro
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Re: Fred Pohl
I'm glad I had the opportunity to meet him at the Centennial. He and Doc put on a very entertaining panel, with many RAH anecdotes.
_________________ "Being right too soon is socially unacceptable." - Heinlein, Expanded Universe
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Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:16 am |
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BillMullins
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:40 pm Posts: 545
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Re: Fred Pohl
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Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:44 am |
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JamesGifford
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Re: Fred Pohl
I haven't done an exhaustive search, but there appears to be something of a break between about 1941 and 1948-9 or so. That is, we couldn't find a name-brand writer who first published in that range. Everything during the war and immediate aftermath was writers who had established themselves pre-war, with the new crop not publishing their first works until almost 1950. In that latter group are Ellison, Silverberg, Brunner, Aldiss and (with only very minor exceptions) Bradbury. You know, those guys. A lot of whom were the ones who decided about ten years later that everyone who came before them wrote crap.
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Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:47 am |
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jeepojiii
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:42 pm Posts: 128 Location: Northern VA
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Re: Fred Pohl
_________________ OJ III
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Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:26 pm |
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PeterScott
Heinlein Nexus
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:10 am Posts: 2236 Location: Pacific NorthWest
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Re: Fred Pohl
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Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:56 pm |
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PeterScott
Heinlein Nexus
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Re: Fred Pohl
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Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:02 pm |
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BillMullins
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:40 pm Posts: 545
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Re: Fred Pohl
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Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:04 pm |
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JamesGifford
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Re: Fred Pohl
Still a substantive break over the war; even Heinlein had publications in 1942 from earlier effort. Not surprising, I suppose, in light of events.
But as most of that list is also gone, I'll repeat the basic question: are ANY prewar writers left with Pohl's passing?
_________________ "Hier stehe ich. Ich kann nicht anders." - Luther In the end, I found Heinlein is finite. Thus, finite analysis is needed.
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Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:50 am |
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NickDoten
NitroForum Oldster
Joined: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:05 am Posts: 238
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Re: Fred Pohl
it seems very doubtful that any pre-war writers are still with us- even if they were published at age 20, this would still mean they'd be in their 90's- which leaves this as possible but unlikely- lol jim i know i didn't answer your question but lacking heavy research i'll guess "no"- the actuarial tables would agree
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Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:57 am |
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PeterScott
Heinlein Nexus
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:10 am Posts: 2236 Location: Pacific NorthWest
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Re: Fred Pohl
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Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:00 am |
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JamesGifford
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Re: Fred Pohl
Sorry, the topic page split made me miss that post. So it looks like two vanishingly minor authors have prewar credits and may still be alive; Kyle is not minor but he's not significant as a writer, AFAICT. More important as the founder of Gnome Press and being one of the earliest BNFs.
Bill P. couldn't think of any other candidates, either, which I'd take as pretty close to absolute.
I think Pohl has left the building and taken the event horizon with him. Damn. World just got a little smaller, didn't it?
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Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:16 pm |
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PeterScott
Heinlein Nexus
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Re: Fred Pohl
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Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:19 pm |
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beamjockey
Centennial Attendee
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:46 am Posts: 545 Location: Aurora, IL, USA, Terra
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Re: Fred Pohl
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BillMullins
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:40 pm Posts: 545
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Re: Fred Pohl
David Kyle at the just-completed WorldCon (LoneStarCon).
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