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Zero-G Starting & Stopping
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beamjockey
Centennial Attendee
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Zero-G Starting & Stopping
_________________ Bill Higgins bill.higgins@gt.org http://beamjockey.livejournal.com
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:48 pm |
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PeterScott
Heinlein Nexus
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:10 am Posts: 2236 Location: Pacific NorthWest
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Re: Zero-G Starting & Stopping
I'm not quite grokking the intent of the statement. What's the difference in impulse between a push and a shove?
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:12 am |
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DavidWrightSr
Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:24 am Posts: 265 Location: Northwest Georgia
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Re: Zero-G Starting & Stopping
I believe the quote is from The Rolling Stones when one of the twins were getting impatient about recovering their bikes that they had abandoned when they matched with the Wargod and suggested that they give them another pull. Actually, I never quite understood it myself why you couldn't stop it with a shove. It might have to do with the catcher not being able match the center of gravity to stop it without causing it to spin.
The ABC series Defying Gravity used the exact sequence a couple of episodes ago when the physicist shoved a large cargo packet at the Venus Lander pilot and amputated her finger. In this case, she didn't see it and didn't attempt to stop it as far as I could tell.
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:23 am |
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JamesGifford
PITA Bred
Joined: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:17 pm Posts: 2402 Location: The Quiet Earth
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Re: Zero-G Starting & Stopping
In the case of the mass of bikes, the tugs would be additive. One tug = stop with more or less equal force. Two tugs = twice the force to stop it. Etc.
I could see where two or three hard tugs could create a momentum far harder to stop than the perpetrator might think. It's a case where the character is fooled by how the mass would behave if it were, say, a rolling cart on a planet surface. Newton's law, etc.
Pretty slick example, but it does require some thought and basic physics to unravel.
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:10 am |
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BillPatterson
Heinlein Biographer
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:33 pm Posts: 1024
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Re: Zero-G Starting & Stopping
I was going to bring up Defying Gravity, too -- what a weird show!
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:03 am |
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TinaBlack
Centennial Organizer
Joined: Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:34 pm Posts: 200
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Re: Zero-G Starting & Stopping
Sounds like it's assumed that a shove would just angle the item in some other direction rather than stopping it.
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:50 pm |
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beamjockey
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Re: Zero-G Starting & Stopping
_________________ Bill Higgins bill.higgins@gt.org http://beamjockey.livejournal.com
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:14 pm |
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